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The god of thunder and the ancestor of the Yoruba people of Nigeria. He is the son of Yemaja the mother goddess and protector of birth. Shango (Xango) has three wives: Oya, who stole Shango's secrets of magic; Oschun, the river goddess who is Shango's favorite because of her culinary abilities; and Oba, who tried to win his love by offering her ear for him to eat. He sent her away in anger and she became the river Oba, which is very turbulent where it meets the river Oschun.
Shango is portrayed with a double axe on his head (the symbol of thunder), with six eyes and sometimes with three heads. His symbolic animal is the ram, and his favorite colors are red and white, which are regarded as being holy. In Brazil, Shango is worshipped as a thunder and weather god by the Umbandists. In Santeria, Shango (Chango) is the equivalent of the Catholic saint St. Barbara.

Shango was once the fourth king of Yoruba, immortalized after death.


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He never actually died. They say his powers backfired and he destroyed his house and all his children. So he went insane and ran off into the forest. When he got into the forest, he decided to leave this world and ascend to become the god of thunder. Osun so sad and depressed decided to become a river (osun river) There is actually a yoruba movie based on shungo ( I forgot that is the correct spelling according to the yoruba tribe)

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black this my religion dear and not doubting your story you may have heard sweety but i'm in priest hood of "shango" he's my gaurdian angel number #6 color red and white dear they are a lot generated stories but my belief in his story dear are totally differant but just about the same. From your sweety but not doubting your story but orisha is a very wise religion that is worship in lot differant ways.honey if you care to talk about this my im is xo0onickyo0ox@aol.com or birds_nikki@yahoo.com i am priest of 5 years dear and you seem very level on this subject and are very please to share notes with you sweety in confidence out side the site here...
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he never actually died. They say his powers backfired and he destroyed his house and all his children. So he went insane and ran off into the forest. When he got into the forest, he decided to leave this world and ascend to become the god of thunder. Osun so sad and depressed decided to become a river (osun river) there is actually a yoruba movie based on shungo ( i forgot that is the correct spelling according to the yoruba tribe)
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he never actually died. They say his powers backfired and he destroyed his house and all his children. So he went insane and ran off into the forest. When he got into the forest, he decided to leave this world and ascend to become the god of thunder. Osun so sad and depressed decided to become a river (osun river) there is actually a yoruba movie based on shungo ( i forgot that is the correct spelling according to the yoruba tribe)
sweety once again not doubting what you heard dear but "osun: Is not river baby osun is metal and iron he is a fierce warrior house number 7 some use 3 sweety
green black dear. So like i said we can talk one on one dear.i post a photo sweety osun not river baby
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Ochun is the river dea not a he its a lady her house number is 5 dear she 's the mother of secrets dear.whose prayers go directly to the ears of Olodumare anddddddd if you not know sweety Olodumare
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actually i saw a documentary where a lady from hati was saying some incantations and it happen to be in my language (yoruba). She said she worships a god called esu but in yoruba it means the devil. She probably pronounced it wrong
sweety esu is elegbara and is not devil sweety esu is a old man and child sweety it's the libation of water he's the gaurdian of crossroads open his doors to all endeavors
esu loves children his house number is 3 and 21 sweety you can read up on that dear he also is known as the tricker sweety if you level on this realigion you know what i'm talking about dear
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Contrary to popular belief, the Africans enslaved to build the economic foundation of America were not Christians.1 During slavery, African-Americans were not even allowed to worship as westernized Christians. Later, during Reconstruction, the myth that the majority of "free" Africans were devout Christians, was merely a political ploy deliberately disseminated in popular media by white Abolitionists, and black preachers, as an argument against slavery; in their naive attempt to present the enslaved masses as "civilized," and therefore “human.” The latter being embarrassed and ashamed by the African religious practices which were deemed "evil" and primitive. 2 This myth has remained unchallenged until the present.

In truth, the builders of this great nation were practitioners of the various African Religions popularly known today as "Voodoo", (Vodoun) Akan, Ifa, Orisha, La Reglas de Congo, and Mami Wata. A small percentage were even (African-styled) Muslims3, incorporating the ancient matriarchal practices of pre-Arabic Islam, to include ancestral veneration and honor of the family deities into their ritual practices.Vodoun houses were established in many free Black townships headed by great healers in the African spiritual arts

These spiritual practices of the Africans enslaved in America, have their ancestral origins not from Haiti, Cuba, or the Americas, but directly from West Africa ( Ewe [ev-way]),Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Senegal, Ghana, the Congo, and other West African nations. The African Spirits remained in their blood just as they did wherever the African was taken and enslaved in the New World 4

It is true that African descendants in the New World, owe much to Haiti, an independent, proud republic since 1804. As a result of their victory, Haitian Vodou, having its ancestral roots in many West African indigenous religions, is the most widely known African religion to have survived and flourished in the New World.

However, though always mis-credited by western historians and New Age converts, Haiti is not where the Vodoun religion was born, nor is it where it reached its highest pinnacle of philosophical, ritual and theological development. The Vodoun religion in the U.S. pre-dates Haitian influence. Vodoun is actually estimated to have existed for more than 10,000+ years, having its ancient roots in Egypt, East Africa and in ancient Afro-matrilineal Ionia (later known as "Greece") where the African, Queen mothers established their powerful temples and theocratic empires. These black, African empires reigned for more than 4,000 years before the Dorian (white) Greek invaders, whom western revisionist ("historians") now credit with their ancient history. The Vodoun religion was also one of the major religions practiced all throughout the ancient world.

Additionally, in more recent times, what is not widely known nor extensively researched is Vodoun's history in America, more specifically, among the Ewe and other enslaved Africans who brought the Vodoun religion directly from West Africa. It had been assumed because the Africans enslaved in America were not as numerous as those in Brazil or the Islands, that somehow their family spiritual lineages died out when the religions were demonized and violently suppressed.The West Africans arrived in America speaking their native mother tongues, and were forbidden to learn English, or to read, including the Euro-Christian Bible. The Christian missionaries, (of whom the majority supported slavery), were not interested in actually teaching the tenets of western Christianity to the enslaved Africans, but rather their primary focus was on presenting a noble image of civilizing them from their "idolatrous" ways, and making them more compliant with their lamentable fate of generational chattel slavery. 5















On many southern plantations, it was even against the law for any enslaved African to pray to their God. The slave owners greatly feared the spiritual powers that many enslaved African priests possessed. Those who were caught praying to God were often brutally penalized, as the following excerpt taken from Peter Randolph's 1893 narrative "Slave Cabin to the Pulpit" recounts:



In some places, if the slaves are caught praying to God, they are whipped more than if they had committed a great crime. The slaveholders will allow the slaves to dance, but do not want them to pray to God. Sometimes, when a slave, on being whipped, calls upon God, he is forbidden to do so, under threat of having his throat cut, or brains blown out. Oh, reader! this seems very hard- - that slaves cannot call on their Maker, when the case most needs it. Sometimes the poor slave takes courage to ask his master to let him pray, and is driven away, with the answer, that if discovered praying, his back will pay the bill.



Interestingly enough, many West Africans with an extensive history of pre-Christian Talmudic (biblical) ritual knowledge and practice, even arrived in the Americas highly familiar with their own pre-Christian tales of the legend of "Moses" .6 They were not familiar with him as the Christianized Moses who led the Jews to the promised land, but rather as "the great conjurer," in which he was revered and celebrated for centuries as the "bringer of the law." This lore is merely a remnant of the legends popularized during the reign of the black matriarchal empires whose sacred theology, rule and culture dominated the ancient world (Ionia, [Greece], Egypt, Asia Minor, Mycenae, Crete, Thessalonica, East Africa, and North India), for more than 6,000 years.



In some locations, Moses (an Afro-masculine word for "savior"; feminine= "Muse") was even worshiped as a God. As a high priestess or priest who wielded great power with the High God. A great and powerful elder who dwelt among humans. He was directly associated with the symbol of the rainbow, serpent deity Dan (or Damballa) of the Vodou Religion in West Africa & the Diaspora.
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